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Well the first storm is here we got about 5" in Hubbardston, but with the rain on the trail end and cold temps for overnight there will be a crust on top wich sucks:( If temps get above freezing in the day it will be fine. I have been checking the ice in the are also almost compleatly closed in but still only about 2" but this snow will help make more ice, I will check and repost with updates for the central MA area. See you on the snow BobDoe:)

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We've gotten about 6-7" here

We've gotten about 6-7" here in North Conway. I just got done flying on Lake Chocorua and the snow is weighing the ice down now so all the weak spots are showing up. The ice varies from 5" to less than an inch. All the typical spots (inlets, springs,sandbar,swamps) are still off limits. I've check a lot of sites over the last 3 weeks and the best chances for "rideable" ice is still north of Berlin NH at the moment. Not sure what Berry Pond is like, I bet it's probably pretty close. Bearcamp Pond is in good shape but you need a town parking permit to park there and then you have to skin in. I haven't checked White Lake. My guess is she's about the sam as Choco.

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What about fields?

What about fields? Any double entendre there?

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I tried to get out today in a

I tried to get out today in a field up in Vermont. We got about a foot of fresh snow here.

I dont know if there was something wrong with the wax in my board or the snow was funky but i swear it would not slide across the snow. I bagged it ten minutes in. Maybe I'll give it another go tomorrow with a different board. pretty disappointing.

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Hatchet Thrower - I had that

Hatchet Thrower - I had that happen to me one time while skiing. I took warm skis out of the condo and dropped them directly on the snow - this resulted in snow melt which then froze on the bottom of my skis on the form of ice chunks. It was like trying to ski on sand paper - I literally had trouble going down hill. I had to go into the lodge and melt off the skis in order to fix this. Lesson learned was that warm skis should be cooled before dropping on snow. Not sure if this was your issue, but something to consider.

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Snowkite lessons are awesome as conditions are super good!

Thigh deep in powder! Fields near North Conway nh
Lessons were awesome today but a little on the gusty side...a couple bridle tricks later we were all rocking out on 4-6 m kites ! Conditions are super good... A little gusty, but def shaping the season up to be very very good for start anyways

Location details call or email me...
Omni resort is def. loaded, very very good.., ill be up there teaching sat and Sunday.

Video to come if wind shapes up

Be safe out there guys!!

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Im up for some snowkiting new

Im up for some snowkiting new years day and all next weekend. Just need to find a place and if anyone wants to join.

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Just got a report on Melvin

Just got a report on Melvin and it's completely open water.

Cold temps comming up should get things going though. Open water now means no snow to insulate it so it should snap freeze when temps drop below zero which may happen in the comming week.

Be very careful out there on any ice that has snow now. I haven't seen any ice thicker than 5" south of Berlin and what I have seen is weak grey ice not strong black ice.

Chocorua's ice is getting weighted down, water comming in over the edges causeing a slush layer that goes in about 30-50'. Ice fisherman drilled holes and those areas are flooding now. Flew all day until 9:00 last night. Still open water on the western side at the swamp.

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thx

Thanks for the report. It's going to be a while before the lakes in s. NH freeze too. Open water as of this morning at all area ponds and lakes.

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So since all the lakes are

So since all the lakes are out of the question anyone have any nice fields/open areas? Dont want all this good snow to go to waste!

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Trying

We are trying to figure that out right now. Many open fields with snow, but obtaining access has proven to be difficult.

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Thinking about heading up to

Thinking about heading up to Woodsom farm in Amesbury tomorrow. Anyone else?

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I could go new years day.

I could go new years day.

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Woodsom farm in Amesbury

PM me. I am free all day today and tomorrow.

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If you don't mind the drive

If you don't mind the drive we rode up near Rangely yesterday. 8" of ice, about a foot and a half of snow. Rode Umbagog, (7,850 acres) it's good to go as well.

If anyone is heading to Acadia, there's over 8" of ice up there as of day before yesterday.

Looks like the Green Thumb Farm fields over in West/North Fryeburg are in play. We have permission to use thier land for kiting but you have to check in at the office and get a signed land access form from Mr. Thibodeau. Be aware of obstacles like equipment, fences and sprinklers. The offices are on 113(N)/West Fryeburg road just over the Maine/NH border on the right side of the road. Mr. Thibodeau is very nice and only requests that we pack out what we pack in, don't trash anything and keep the numbers of riders within reason.

After this week of cold Melvin might be in play? We'll keep an eye out. Squam and Wentworth should be setting up as well.

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Quick Update: Tried to ride

Quick Update:

Tried to ride Chocorua and Chocorua is out for the moment. The heavy snow and crazy winds last night cracked up the ice a little and water is seeping through all over the lake. That and a bunch of new ice fishing holes has produced a slush layer almost over the entire lake. In theses cold temps any slush that you hit snap freezes and bogs you down. Rode over in N. Fryeburg instead. Looks like land based riding for a few days here. Snow is pretty scoured in spots and waist deep in the gullies. Not ideal but better thand sitting on the couch.

Water bodies up north are fine.

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After super freezing cold

After super freezing cold temps last night/morning almost all the lake cams are showing ice!! And with temps getting even colder tonight it'll get even better!

http://www.rattlesnakecam.com/icein.htm

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Is Ossipee Lake kiteable?

Is Ossipee Lake kiteable? Reports had it froze solid on the 28th and can only be getting stronger now. Hopeing to get out to a decent spot this weekend.

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I have not gotten any recent

I have not gotten any recent reports on Ossipee and I haven't been down there to see it first hand. I would be very suprised if it's in play yet, maybe by the end of the weekend if these cold temps stick with us.

I wouldn't doubt the smaller lakes that surround Ossi are frozen but Ossipee itself I would very wary of.

I'll make some calls and see what the story is. Ossipee is a funny lake depending on wind conditions and the far south end and the inlet where the river comes in freeze really late if at all. The swamp at the NW corner is pretty sketch until late season as well. We've gotten permission in the past to park at Camp Calumet. Not sure if that still stands or not, we usually park on the road where the snowmobiles cross and just walk in from there. Better chance of gettin good wind for launch.

If I can't get any good intel on Ossi's ice conditions I'll go down and check it out.

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this is the only place i
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Moosehorn is good to go, 6"

Moosehorn is good to go, 6" of ice with 4-6" of snow on top, very little slush 99.9% dry. Ron and I got for a couple hrs yesterday very nice:)

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how is the path down to the

how is the path down to the edge of the lake for my VW Golf?

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Yeah, that Ossipee lake cam,

Yeah, that Ossipee lake cam, ISN'T ON OSSIPEE LAKE its actually on one of the smaller lakes due east of Ossipee. Don't let it fool ya. =)

I'll check it out first hand.

In the meantime, Melvin has frozen over. Unfortunately the winds really busted up the ice so its jagged ice as far as you could see with binos. At least its set up and if we get some rain it will smooth out. If we get snow that would be good too as long as we get enough ice made first.

I'll post a report on Ossi. later today.

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Goodie! I LOVE Melvin

Goodie! I LOVE Melvin

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i went out to milton three

i went out to milton three ponds yesterday after work. it's only about 5 minutes from the house. Looks pretty solid everywhere i'm going to check it out a little better tonight or tomorrow.
Also, found a real nice wide open field in rochester. I'm going to stop and ask for permission tonight on my way home.

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What road's that Rochester

What road's that Rochester field on? I kited a spot there on Tuesday.

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pickering rd.where was the

pickering rd.
where was the spot you kited? i'm looking for a place close that i could hit for an hour or 2 if i get out of work early friday. I'm iffy to hit lakes by myself. I have a few small ones around my house and they look solid but who knows.

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A few small ones, kids? or

A few small ones, kids? or lakes?

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lakes

lakes

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Took a look at Ossipee.

Took a look at Ossipee. Looks pretty much completely frozen over. Drilled about 20 holes on the south end with a minimum of 4" of grey ice.

A view from above the lake reveals several holes that have just recently skimmed over. (see pic)

Ice layer is rough. Wind shattered and pushed it around a bit. Not terrible but after a while it will rattle you fillings right out of your head I imagine.

I'm staying off Ossi for another week I think. The slush layer on Choco is setting up well and most of the slush is frozen enough to support a skier. The slush that didn't saturate the snow above it is still completely unfrozen and will likely remain so until we get some rain to consolidate the surface.

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http://www.fiddleheadfocus.co

http://www.fiddleheadfocus.com/content/0013186-two-snowmobilers-fall-thr...

be careful out in the ice folks....
We do not want the press talking about kiters falling through and becoming injured and more importantly a friend that's in bad place.
But then again....

http://www.maine.gov/ifw/warden_service/safety.html

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Bob, Any word on what Quaboug

Bob,

Any word on what Quaboug Res is looking like? Its almost time for Chris and I to come up there.

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Tried riding Chocorua today.

Tried riding Chocorua today. Holy slush fest Batman.

Looks good until you get out there and dig an edge into the windslab. As expected, about 4" of slush under everything.

We need some rain.

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Have not been to Quaboag yet

Have not been to Quaboag yet I will take a look see on Mon. Moose horn is getting slushyer (is that evan a word)

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And the daily high are

And the daily high are predicted to get above freezing early next week. So we need rain, then a cold snap? Part of the fun of this sport is becoming so in tune with your natural surroundings.

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Be careful snow/ ice kiters!

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ice fishing

Guys were out on the local ponds in s. Nh this morning setting traps in the middle.

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I got word from a rider

I got word from a rider yesterday that Squam is frozen tip to tail with 4" of BLACK ICE.

He rode yesterday, there were some Kitewings and iceboarders out as well as a DN boat race so I would say that's a good sign.

Might check it out today.

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Just an update. As it was hot

Just an update.

As it was hot as nuts today everything softened up. Some places needed this so we're kinda happy to see it.

We rode Squam Lake today. 5" of black ice and they had DN races out there the other day. There are some thin spots near the points but they are easily avoided.

We also launched out of Center Harbor and flew out past 1 mile island. Melvin is still a rough mess.

Hopefully these warm temps, some rain and some wet snow followed by cold will get Melvin squared away.

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Hardwater Kiting

I saw Chris Krug on TV tonight ....
Very impressive! Anybody else catch the show?

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any more details?

any more details?

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Got to Quaboag today and all

Got to Quaboag today and all good but no snow

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Rode Chocorua today briefly.

Rode Chocorua today briefly. The ice sheet is floating, holes have opened up at the inlet. Melvin is apparently in play and a friend of mine rode there today for 123 miles without any issues. It's going to get cold againso Melvin should be good to go for the season. It's supposed tp nuke Friday so that may be a good play to rip around.

Be careful out there.

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Hi everyone...Um well...57

Hi everyone...
Um well...
57 degrees for a few days? Yeah lakes, fields, they are affected and may not be reliable/safe,...... It may not be the experience your looking for.

Mount Washington ( the mountain) has been very good and has been for the last few days... But now with winds up ( over 100 ) and cold temps coming in, it will be glare ice EVERYWHERE above tree line.

Omni has 60-70% snow but with grass exposed, free riding is ok, but not open.

Lessons have been great up there, but not for folks looking for freestyle/cruising.
Utah anyone?

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Theyre callin for 2-4 inches

Theyre callin for 2-4 inches on Wednesday here in nh. Im about 15 minutes south of winni so this weekend might be good.
If melvin is good maybe we can open church of the monkeys on sunday!

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Supposed to be nukin at

Supposed to be nukin at Melvin on Sunday. 20+ NW.

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Yes sir! Im in if anyone else

Yes sir! Im in if anyone else wants to meet up!

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I'm in for Melvin any day

I'm in for Melvin any day this (long) weekend, bring it on! Alex I'll bring my extra 12 if it's light.

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awesome! i'm in for any day.

awesome! i'm in for any day. I'll def be there sunday, probably early morning to get a nice long session in.

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I'd be down for Melvin too,

I'd be down for Melvin too, but is this really frozen solid? It has been way too warm for me (mentally) in the past couple of days.

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