Knee problem from kiting twin tip?

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I've had soreness in my right knee after my last few sessions. I've been taking advil for it, (I know I should ice it too). The pain lasts about 2 or 3 days, no noticable swelling, not tender to the touch, just hurts a little to walk and use stairs. It doesn't hurt when I'm kiting, just afterwards. Might be ACL?

I haven't noticed any particular fall where I bumped or twisted it and I'm not jumping. I'm riding twin tips and I wonder if it's related to stance- having my feet pointed out in the straps but twisting my hips and rear leg forward. It seems like it might put a lot of strain on the rear knee.

I'm thinking about rideing strapless for my next session,although I'm not really ready for it, to see if that helps. Also, might see an ortho or, last resort, take a few weeks off. Of course, the weather is warm this week and my work is slow so I was dreaming of a mid week session.

Any insight, advice, similar experience?

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What board are you

What board are you using....most flat planks are really bad for the joints. Look into trying a board with a good amount of rocker and concave. The rocker helps distribute the water on you landings making them a lot softer. I ride a SS Reflex wakeboard behind the kite....it has 3" of rocker and the landings are butter smooth, just not a good board for straps.

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knee pain

I have had many knee injuries including an ACL tear with repair about 20 yrs ago. I do know that most ACL injuries the person knows immediatly that something is wrong. Major swelling, hearing a "pop" or immediate intense pain. All occurred with mine.
Where is your pain specifically? Is it in the front of the knee, the sides, or generallized throughout the whole knee?A syndome called anterior knee pain syndrome gives you pain especially walking down steps. This is caused by poor tracking of you patella (kneecap). Your symptoms may improve by strengthening your quads and hamstrings.
Sometimews age catches up and you can have a degenerative tear of your meniscus. The only way to really know is with an MRI.
Good luck I hope this is helpful. I to have chronic knee pain and have just started kiting. Hope it doesn't make me stop

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Go see the orthopedic

Go see the orthopedic surgeon. Dr Karlson at Mount Auburn is good. Sometimes they have the magic bullet. In my case it was orthoscopic surgery to repair a torn meniscus, 6 weeks of recovery and you're back on the water. Good thing to buy health insurance for...

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dunoyer...

remember, pre existing conditions aren't covered with our crappy health industry. doesn't look that will change either thanks to the nitwits (u know who u are) that voted for Scott Brown.

oh yes, Scopper, go surfstyle. gybing and smacking the lip are so fun!

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Thanks for all the input!

Thanks for all the input!

Chooch- I'm riding flat plywood boards but I'm not jumping much yet.

NewC- The pain is inside, generalized. I heard that the ACL can get tiny tears but I don't really know. I had no popping, immediate pain, swelling etc. Stairs hurt more than flat walking so maybe anterior knee syndrome.

I guess I should see an ortho. Maybe I'll try a brief strapless session and see how it feels. Or, if I can't figure out strapless riding, I could loosen the twintip straps enough so that I can pivot my rear foot forward a little in the strap.

Anyway, thanks again. All the input helps.

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Try strapless

I rode a skimboard strapless all day sunday and it was great. The skimboard requires you to ride standing up straighter than on a twin tip which was very comfortable. Usually my back gets very sore when I ride (not sure why), and sunday it felt great. Also, you can shift your feet around to whatever stance feels right. Riding the skim really wasn't very hard, I had no problems and it was only my second time on one. Couldn't get the gybes down, but it's something to work on!

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I've got an old skimboard,

I've got an old skimboard, and some windsurfing boards that I can put a small fin in to try strapless. It's the waterstarts without straps that I find hard. I guess I need to learn to hold the board with one hand and send the kite with the other?

The skim sounds easy on the knees!

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The waterstart is a little

The waterstart is a little tricky. I didn't need to hold the board, but it was flat water so that helped. I'm gonna look for a skim when I get back to the States, it was a really fun session.

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Update?

The same thing happened to me after going out for a few hours last Saturday. I'm just starting out but that was my second session in the waves (an insane amount of fun!) that were up to maybe waist high. I was boosting little airs while tacking back out and there was a fair amount of chop so my knees were definitely doing more work than normal. They've been sore before, but never like this. I surfed on Sunday and Monday but my knee was really stiff and somewhat painful. On the other hand there was no swelling, point tenderness, or acute pain to speak of. Walking is fine once the stiffness subsides but the dull ache is still there.

I ultimately want to switch to a strapless surfboard but I'm not quite ready for that yet (maybe a few more sessions).
I was wondering if it was because the duck stance I have on my twintip board is tweaking out my knee?
What worked for you in terms of rehab and a long term fix?

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That was 3 years ago! I'd

That was 3 years ago! I'd almost forgotten about that knee pain.

I saw an ortho. He said nothing serious was going on. Told me I could keep kiting on it, just take it easy.

I loosened my straps so I could pivot my feet more and twist me knees less. I think that helped a lot. I still keep my straps looser than most and always pivot my front foot a little in the direction of travel. My board sometimes slips off during fast rotations, making for rude crashes, but otherwise I love the loose straps.

I did ride strapless surfboard and home made skim board for awhile. I don't remember now if that helped. Probably all of it helped. Soreness lasted several months and went away slowly. Occasionally I feel a little tweak in the knees now but I get that in all of my joints at this point, usually doesn't last long.

Maybe kiting once every week for a few years, sometimes twice, has created some conditioning benefits. Or the kiting could be causing brain degeneration so I don't feel no pain.

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go see the surgeon

go see the surgeon

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Skyrocket let's keep it civil

Skyrocket let's keep it civil and not get all uppity by starting a political name calling session. Be respectful please. The political landscape isn't as black and white as you may believe. Besides, wouldn't you agree this site isn't the place for this.

Scooper. My knees are in great shape, but since I started kiting I noticed that they are quite sore the next day after riding my twin tip. It could be mostly just unused muscles getting worked but knee pain isn't something I take lightly. It's seems less on my Shinn board - I don't have to load up my back leg so much, taking the stress off one knee. I agree with Skyrocket Wink on one thing, when riding strapless my knees feel fine.

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Maybe the FAKE INDIAN WILL

Maybe the FAKE INDIAN WILL SEND MEDICINE MAN, sorry but I could not resist.

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