Sunset ride at Dog Beach
When:
Sat, 11/12/2011
Beach/Launch:
Dog Beach, Nahant
MASSkiting Username:
Wind Speeds:
Light <20
Great session, steady southwest wind almost 20 mph,
smoke had just enough power to keep parked. Got my
first real toeside riding in.
Ferdinand got some nice shots as the sun set.
Saw Craig and two others.
Frito pie for dinner.
Session Pictures:
(2 votes)
Sun, 11/13/2011 - 22:10
#1
Frito pie? Recipe? Nice
Frito pie? Recipe? Nice photo, great to see everyone everywhere scoring the session.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 00:05
#2
Nice shot! Makes me want to
Nice shot! Makes me want to step into the picture.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 09:11
#4
Can you make this for a
Can you make this for a hundred people next Hatteras? LOL! SOunds dee lish!!!!!!
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 11:43
#5
Cool sunset shot!
Thanks for
Cool sunset shot!
Thanks for sharing, and for the session report.
Rode on the Long Beach side earlier that afternoon, but couldn't stay to see the sunset.
Willing to share any secret/tip on toeside riding? Feel like I'm almost ready to try.
Christophe
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:15
#6
toeside
I find that the carving to toeside transition (at this point, just on my switch side) can throw me off more than simply chop-hopping or sliding to toeside. I'm working on riding toeside switch - port tack for me - and take note of the kite position and a landmark to tell me where I'm riding towards, then either pop or slide to toeside, trying to maintain kite position and board trim. Play around with weighting the board - more fore or aft - and when in doubt ride a bit towards the kite then try carving slowly away to get the feel for edging. Also remember to lean away from the kite, similar body position to heelside.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 22:27
#7
I went thru a period when I
I went thru a period when I obsessively worked on carving to and from toeside and riding toeside as much as I could. Like Brian R- I also found the chop hop to toeside or slide to toeside helpful. It might sound hard to do but sometimes it seemed easier than the carve because you can make sure you're not changing the kite position or the tack your on, and it's quick. This was my problem with carving- during the carve I would inadvertantly shift my tack/ kite postion/ body position/ edging- and lose my speed. If you can do a chop hop to toeside and continue in the exact same direction, then you'll avoid those subtle mistakes that can happen during a carve. But good to try carving too and alternate with chop hops and slides to toeside until it all starts to click. This is all just to agree with Brian R and Dunoyer. They said it well.
The other big thing that helped me was to have a little extra power in the kite for riding toeside or carving. If your ubnderpowered it's much harder.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:20
#8
Start toeside riding by
Start toeside riding by carving to toeside on a transition. Keep the kite low, then turn it fast so it travels across the window quickly while staying low. Gives you good clean consistent power so you can stay on the edge.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 17:41
#9
Merci Jean.
That's exactly
Merci Jean.
That's exactly what I was trying to do Saturday, but couldn't quite commit through the entire transition. I'm on a mission now.
Sat, 02/18/2012 - 22:01
#10
you the man
Dunoyer wrote:
Start toeside riding by carving to toeside on a transition. Keep the kite low, then turn it fast so it travels across the window quickly while staying low. Gives you good clean consistent power so you can stay on the edge.
This is something I'm working on now. I can do it, but I demand perfection!
I carve to toeside, but don't rocket out of it with power, board speed decreases during the transition, lines don't keep consistent tension I guess is the problem. Okay, anyways, so on what you are recommending here is that you use the streering lines (back lines) hard to keep the kite low, and get it to turn without rising up the window, then send it right across the power zone without the typical arc shape?
I guess I'm wondering why this works. It sounds like it could make sense because when you do a carving transition you are riding your board downwind in the middle of it. So, is the idea to time it so that you have the kite travel across the power zone when you are in the middle of the carve. Seems like this is the hardest point in the transition to keep your lines taught because you are moving towards the kite the fastest, therefore sending the kite right through the power zone really low compensates and you end up with a nice clean consistent line tension throughout the turn.
Sat, 02/18/2012 - 23:08
#11
yes the idea is that you want
yes the idea is that you want a lot of power available. So if you keep the kite low and turn it fast the other direction keeping it low the whole time, the kite has to travel clear across the window and delivers a ton of power. Then you can choose to release some of that power if you want by steering toward the kite, or not and hold the edge tight for maximum pull. Also a fun modification to that is to downloop the kite. Again, the idea is to use the kite at that moment to give you maximum power while holding the edge. it is an awesome feeling. We can go over it when we ride together at the Hatt. The main point is that as you progress, you need to unlearn what they taught you in the beginner classes. It is now time to move the kite super fast and do radical things with it.
Sun, 02/19/2012 - 08:59
#12
sounds good
I feel like the high level kiting learning curve is like this:
1) take classes and get up and riding, get safety down pat...
2) ride around a bunch to just understand the physics, start riding in all conditions, etc.
3) now go learn what can't really be "taught" and must be "felt" in order to understand/learn
I'm inclined to think even jumping (which I'm doing so so now) is easier than "perfect" powered carving turns. Jumps are easy to understand "how they work." Carving turns a re finesse and skill, I want to be sexy out there!
Sun, 02/19/2012 - 13:03
#13
As one instructor put it:
As one instructor put it: "It's 4 dimensional." I believe this is what keeps us interested in this sport longer than say skiing or snowboarding.
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:34
#14
Wainman
Is that kite a Wainman?
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 14:59
#15
looks like he is scaring the
looks like he is scaring the birds with that thing!
Mon, 11/14/2011 - 19:49
#16
Yep, the Smoke.
I'd had some
Yep, the Smoke.
I'd had some trouble awhile back with it underpowered and
getting knocked around in gusts, but this session made me really like it.
Carving to toeside was much easier with the smoke than my earlier Zephyr
attempts, mainly because I'm slow getting around and the kite would drop.
Smoke crossed the window fast and kept me going.
Make a huge amount of chile sauce using tons of N. New Mexico red chile powder,water or broth, cubes of meat, and sauteed (in olive oil) garlic, cumin, oregano, salt. Let stew for awhile.
Dump a bag of fritos in a bowl and sprinkle with lots of cheddar and onions, then spoon tons of hot chile sauce on to melt the cheese, add guacamole on top, and eat right away while it's crunchy. Shredded lettuce & tomatoes optional.
Can also be made right in the bag.
I think Marie stole this recipe from Rodrigo.